This is a great point, and I've absolutely seen this play out in my own 18 year old daughter's life. When they wanted to save up money for something they cared about (travel and tattoos, hah!), they got themselves a job and now spend a lot less time on their phone. High expectations are absolutely so crucial.
I have seen elsewhere, however, that students who attend high-achieving schools are more likely to suffer from anxiety and depression-- how do you connect that research to this?
As someone who did most of the out of school activities, do find it a bit surprising how much some of them diverge with the correlation, would not have thought leadership/scouting have no corr, while sports and religion are that strong (definitely would have expected positive corr for these two but maybe lower)
Highlighting the differences in the high achievers kids aligns so much with my experience. My kids schools are extremely diverse (economically as well as racially) and I have had lots of exposure to the full population as a volunteer soccer coach for the last decade. These kids are living in totally different worlds, which is why ultimately I’m highly skeptical that anything the school does to address the unequal outcomes is anything more than pissing into the wind. Sadly in my experience the actions the schools have taken actually make the gaps bigger. The biggest one of these was detracking math in middle school and also lowering the expectations, so now all the affluent families send their kids to Russian school of math for enrichment. It used to be that at least a few working class kids would get into the advanced classes but now even that avenue has been shut down.
From a policy perspective, would the solution be crafting more after-school activities and requiring them? The issue is not availability it's interest, right?
This is a great point, and I've absolutely seen this play out in my own 18 year old daughter's life. When they wanted to save up money for something they cared about (travel and tattoos, hah!), they got themselves a job and now spend a lot less time on their phone. High expectations are absolutely so crucial.
I have seen elsewhere, however, that students who attend high-achieving schools are more likely to suffer from anxiety and depression-- how do you connect that research to this?
Thanks!
As someone who did most of the out of school activities, do find it a bit surprising how much some of them diverge with the correlation, would not have thought leadership/scouting have no corr, while sports and religion are that strong (definitely would have expected positive corr for these two but maybe lower)
Highlighting the differences in the high achievers kids aligns so much with my experience. My kids schools are extremely diverse (economically as well as racially) and I have had lots of exposure to the full population as a volunteer soccer coach for the last decade. These kids are living in totally different worlds, which is why ultimately I’m highly skeptical that anything the school does to address the unequal outcomes is anything more than pissing into the wind. Sadly in my experience the actions the schools have taken actually make the gaps bigger. The biggest one of these was detracking math in middle school and also lowering the expectations, so now all the affluent families send their kids to Russian school of math for enrichment. It used to be that at least a few working class kids would get into the advanced classes but now even that avenue has been shut down.
From a policy perspective, would the solution be crafting more after-school activities and requiring them? The issue is not availability it's interest, right?